The following article does not represent the opinions of the Midgaardian Publishing Group.
Sometimes I disagree with immortal opinions. Sometimes they disagree with mine. I like to think, however, that I try to always be courteous and forgiving when they contact me personally about something. Well... usually. What follows is an unadulterated and unedited (except in one instance to remove duplicate information) transcript of my recent run-in with the law.
17 Feb 15:00 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'unless you want a new nonote term with more severe consequences, consider this a warning.'
17 Feb 15:00 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'of?'
17 Feb 15:01 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'your latest post on Ideas. Nice joke - repost on the appropriate board.'
17 Feb 15:01 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'who says it's a joke?'
17 Feb 15:01 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'you don't like my idea. I'm ok with that. that's what the feedback board is for'
17 Feb 15:01 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'Oh, I'll just make a board for you to post on to your own enjoyment in solitarity'
17 Feb 15:01 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'keep going, you're moving closer and closer.'
17 Feb 15:02 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'I don't understand where this anger is coming from'
17 Feb 15:02 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'or the reason for the threats'
17 Feb 15:04 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'the reason is coming from your self-righteous "I am the ruler" posts. You hold as much decision power as everyone else posting - if your response to a feedback thread is "let's separate Aardwolf into two", which is basically what your note implies, go ahead with the plan. Just stop baiting and flaming.'
17 Feb 15:05 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'I'm not sure what you mean by "I'm the ruler" posts. I would appreciate examples of what you think I've posted that says that and why.'
17 Feb 15:06 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 're-read your own notes. If you wish to argue the point further, do it with /dev/null or Lasher. I have issued a warning. If you're not getting it - fine, but it keeps stacking.'
17 Feb 15:07 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost (AFK) 'I don't even know what point I'm supposed to be arguing. You seem to think that any of my notes indicate "I am the ruler". I merely request your reason.'
17 Feb 15:08 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 're-read my tells. If you can't read it's not my problem. (Quote from one of your notes btw).'
17 Feb 15:08 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost (AFK) 'which note was that? did it apply? did I make an effort to explain (my guess is yes.)?'
17 Feb 15:10 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost (AFK) 'the reason why I say that my guess is yes is that it would be quite uncharacteristic of me to do what, in a sense, you are doing, which is saying "I don't have to explain myself to you". You're certainly within your rights to do it. But don't put me in that category with you.'
17 Feb 15:15 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'you see, I explained the situation, you reacted in the usual "I am never in the wrong" way. Fine. You've had dozens of warnings, you've been no-noted before to think about things. You're producing the same crap as back then now - and the same arguments. Since you don't seem to be getting the message, feel happy about the fact I don't over-react.'
17 Feb 15:16 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'Of course I'm going to act like I'm not in the wrong. You haven't demonstrated otherwise.'
17 Feb 15:17 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'let's start with note #15281 on General'
17 Feb 15:18 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'you disagree with the fact that @w can be put on the end of a line automatically?'
17 Feb 15:18 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'that's been your idea of talking to the IMM staff - "lame". Keep going, I will continue'
17 Feb 15:18 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'that IDEA was lame. it didn't make sense. please do keep going.'
17 Feb 15:19 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'see, I fed you a hint, you swallowed it and burped. Keep going.'
17 Feb 15:20 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'you just told me that you think something is wrong with the statement that @w can be put at the end of a line automatically and that that is therefore NOT a valid reason for preventing the automation of restrings.'
17 Feb 15:20 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'then check note 4042 on Feedback. Find a constructive piece in it.'
17 Feb 15:21 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'what ISN'T constructive about it? It's an explanation of the argument for removing morgues.'
17 Feb 15:21 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'are you just looking for notes from me without actually reading them or the threads?'
17 Feb 15:21 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'I'm all too aware of your attempts to put words in others' mouths. Unfortunately, our conversation is logged. If you re-read my tells (learn to read?) you'll see I said something completely different.'
17 Feb 15:21 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'funny thing you should mention that our conversation is logged. I've been logging it too'
17 Feb 15:22 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'at this point I'm done - I could go on and on, but you're not exactly discussing anything, you're raising the hostility level beyond any belief. Keep it up, my warning is officially recorded. Complaints go to /dev/null or Lasher.'
17 Feb 15:23 - You tell A Ghost Of Timeghost 'wait. *I'M* raising the hostility level? Who's threatening whom?'
17 Feb 15:23 - A Ghost Of Timeghost tells you 'I said I'm done :)'
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From : Fiendish: a log
Forum : Personal - #68726
To : imm
Date : Tue Feb 17 15:24:52 2009
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Can I please get an explanation of this?
I am aware that responses may be considered spammy on the personal board, so it
may be prudent to send a tell rather than reply to this note.
... (a copy of the above conversation) ...
This is /dev/null, right?
- Fiendish
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From Stop, or my mom will shoot!: Timeghost: Re: a log
Forum : Personal - #68731
To : imm Fiendish
Date : Tue Feb 17 15:39:30 2009
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Reply to: Note 68726 posted by Fiendish
And now an extract from the latest notes :)
Feedback 3251:
> If you can't be bothered to even say hello to the people who are ostensibly
> your friends, then perhaps you need to reconsider your purpose here.
Who are you exactly to tell people to reconsider their purpose?
Feedback 3651:
> I'll leave "why" as an exercise for you, because it looks like you need to
> think about this some more.
> If you need some help, you may ponder my personal clan history.
Very constructive feedback.
Feedback 3665:
> third leg only gets to wear a ring.
Even more constructive feedback, see above.
Killer Feedback 4038:
> Ok, everyone. The show's over. We can all go home now. Mirara has just
> closed the Ideas and Feedback boards forever. Nobody should ever
> try to propose anything that would make the game better.
Excellent. You support responses to ideas with all the fibres of your soul...
just that accidentally you come close to the personal attacks border.
This is ONLY from the Feedback board. My warning stands. Since you decided so,
it is for all to see.
There are many ways to word responses nicely without putting people down. Since
you always choose not to with yours, here's a hint: it's easy. Try it.
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From : Fiendish: Re: a log +
Forum : Personal - #68734
To : imm Fiendish Timeghost
Date : Tue Feb 17 15:46:06 2009
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Reply to: Note 68731 posted by Timeghost
> Feedback 3251
You object to the idea that saying "hello" to people whom you claim to be your
friends should not be considered an onerous task? Really?
Do you actually disagree with what I said or are you just fishing?
> feedback 3651
Oh for crying out loud. Did you even read the thread? Or what I was
replying to? My personal clan history IS evidence enough to refute
the claim that was being made. If Lupercus required elucidation he needed only
ask. He evidently understood what I was trying to say.
> feedback 3665
Oh yes. In a thread about extra limbs, I made a tripod joke that STILL managed
to be on topic. Let's pin Fiendish to the wall for offering suggestions
about the modification of an idea on the feedback board.
> feedback 4038
I fail to see how pointing out the wrongness of telling people, on the
feedback board, to keep their ideas to themselves and that no
idea should ever affect someone who doesn't want it is in any way
shape or form anywhere remotely near a personal attack.
I get the feeling that spaghetti is being thrown at the wall here.
- Fiendish
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From : Timeghost: Re: a log ++
Forum : Personal - #68825
To : imm Fiendish Timeghost
Date : Wed Feb 18 03:38:48 2009
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Reply to: Note 68734 posted by Fiendish
Whilst I did not expect any sort of a respectful response from your side, I
am surprised that you're not even bothering to address the point I was making.
I'm not questioning nor judging the quality of information or opinion you give
out. I warned you about the attitude/tone with which you deliver it.
Since instead of bothering to think about it a bit more than 0.01 seconds you
choose to call it spaghetti-throwing, I don't see further debating as fruitful.
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From : Fiendish: Re: a log +++
Forum : Personal - #68852
To : imm Fiendish Timeghost
Date : Wed Feb 18 07:37:05 2009
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Reply to: Note 68825 posted by Timeghost
> Whilst I did not expect any sort of a respectful response from your side
That street goes two ways. Of the two of us in this exchange, I don't
think that *I'M* the one being particularly disrespectful.
> you choose to call it spaghetti-throwing
I'm sorry if you disagree with my assessment that you took
bits of threads completely out of context and without
any regard for applicability or aptness in order to
find something that might stick.
You are on a fishing expedition, trying to force some
perverse meaning of your own, and yes I say
of your own, into my notes, in order to come up with
something, ANYTHING, that will land you the big prize.
You're not looking for a respectful response. You're looking
for me to roll over.
To say that my responses were inappropriate
suggests to me either an absence of dilligence or a
vendetta. I can only conclude based on the things
that you said during our conversation that it's the
latter, though I can't imagine why because I've done
nothing to you.
In your next note please reference this one. I'm sure it's
just disrespectful enough for you to point to and say
"Ahah! See! I knew it! Not constructive!"
You should have just no-noted me from the start. It
would have been better than making these false claims
and been just as much nonsense.
- Fiendish
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So there you have it. If I'm not around when this gets published, you'll know why. If I am, well, give it a few days. :D
